Comments on: ONA 08 review and thoughts http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/2008/09/15/ona-08-review-and-thoughts/ Random musings from a technologist Wed, 06 Apr 2011 15:43:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: pat http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/2008/09/15/ona-08-review-and-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-4822 pat Sat, 20 Sep 2008 03:52:14 +0000 http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/?p=546#comment-4822 @Bryan, How could I forget? I'll have to make another post about this subject. I was at the job fair, and it was certainly depressing. I went there to see what kinds of jobs news organizations were hiring for. Well, many aren't hiring. What further disturbed me was how many organizations are still looking for either traditional reporters or Web developers. Why aren't more organizations looking for online journalists? You know people who can write and do video and blogging? I just can't imagine hiring someone today that didn't have some Web, audio, video or photo skills. And, frankly, even if I was going to hire someone only to write, I'd at least want them to be able to beat blog. This idea of working only for print is rather quaint. And short sided. I'd want almost all of my reporters to be beat bloggers. Maybe a few could work on investigative projects, but I'd still want them working with database journalism. @Bryan,

How could I forget? I’ll have to make another post about this subject.

I was at the job fair, and it was certainly depressing. I went there to see what kinds of jobs news organizations were hiring for. Well, many aren’t hiring.

What further disturbed me was how many organizations are still looking for either traditional reporters or Web developers. Why aren’t more organizations looking for online journalists?

You know people who can write and do video and blogging? I just can’t imagine hiring someone today that didn’t have some Web, audio, video or photo skills.

And, frankly, even if I was going to hire someone only to write, I’d at least want them to be able to beat blog. This idea of working only for print is rather quaint. And short sided.

I’d want almost all of my reporters to be beat bloggers. Maybe a few could work on investigative projects, but I’d still want them working with database journalism.

]]> By: Bryan Murley http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/2008/09/15/ona-08-review-and-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-4820 Bryan Murley Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:42:24 +0000 http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/?p=546#comment-4820 You didn't mention the "no-jobs" fair, which I heard was a dud from students who went to it. You didn’t mention the “no-jobs” fair, which I heard was a dud from students who went to it.

]]> By: Angela Connor http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/2008/09/15/ona-08-review-and-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-4805 Angela Connor Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:53:27 +0000 http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/?p=546#comment-4805 I have been talking about moderating comments ad nauseum. It's amazing that the newspaper industry is still trying to figure this out. Hire moderators. We did back in January and it has been quite the success. Is it easy? NO, but it's worth it and it needs to be done. On another note, I left ONA (Toronto) extremely upset last year at the highly "print" focus and the way the slashdot guy blasted me for indicating that his challenges were NOT the challenges of traditional news media and that he was not addressing our concerns. It sounds like it was better this year, but from all I've read from those who attended...there is still a long way to go. I hope that feedback gets to the right people. Enjoyed your recap. Thanks. I have been talking about moderating comments ad nauseum. It’s amazing that the newspaper industry is still trying to figure this out. Hire moderators. We did back in January and it has been quite the success. Is it easy? NO, but it’s worth it and it needs to be done.
On another note, I left ONA (Toronto) extremely upset last year at the highly “print” focus and the way the slashdot guy blasted me for indicating that his challenges were NOT the challenges of traditional news media and that he was not addressing our concerns.
It sounds like it was better this year, but from all I’ve read from those who attended…there is still a long way to go. I hope that feedback gets to the right people. Enjoyed your recap. Thanks.

]]> By: pat http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/2008/09/15/ona-08-review-and-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-4804 pat Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:44:13 +0000 http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/?p=546#comment-4804 @Will, ONA does have student rates, which are much more palatable, but it can still do better. What about lower rates on hotels or assistance with airfare? ONA needs more students. @Will,

ONA does have student rates, which are much more palatable, but it can still do better. What about lower rates on hotels or assistance with airfare?

ONA needs more students.

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]]> By: Will http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/2008/09/15/ona-08-review-and-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-4796 Will Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:04:50 +0000 http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/?p=546#comment-4796 I'm with you on the cost. I'm a student in DC and was thinking about going to sessions between my classes, but it wasn't worth it for all that it cost. I’m with you on the cost. I’m a student in DC and was thinking about going to sessions between my classes, but it wasn’t worth it for all that it cost.

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