Comments on: My newest journalism adventure… http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/2008/06/19/my-newest-journalism-adventure/ The blog of online journalist and Web developer Patrick Thornton. This blog seeks to combine journalism and Web development to forge a new frontier. Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:26:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Rebecca http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/2008/06/19/my-newest-journalism-adventure/#comment-4176 Rebecca Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:38:54 +0000 http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/?p=307#comment-4176 I was just wondering what you all think of a journalism concept that features live news from around the country and world all one one web site. It's called livenewscameras.com and it runs 24 hours a day. A live anchor or moderator appears in a window and guides viewers toward live breaking news happening on any of the 200 stations on the site. Viewers get to see the action as it unfolds thanks to the many live helicopter feeds from different stations on the site. If you guys have any thoughts you'd like to share, you can reach me at info@livenewscameras.com. I was just wondering what you all think of a journalism concept that features live news from around the country and world all one one web site. It’s called livenewscameras.com and it runs 24 hours a day. A live anchor or moderator appears in a window and guides viewers toward live breaking news happening on any of the 200 stations on the site. Viewers get to see the action as it unfolds thanks to the many live helicopter feeds from different stations on the site. If you guys have any thoughts you’d like to share, you can reach me at info@livenewscameras.com.

]]> By: Dan Thornton http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/2008/06/19/my-newest-journalism-adventure/#comment-3993 Dan Thornton Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:16:12 +0000 http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/?p=307#comment-3993 Belated congratulations and good luck! @Albert If used correctly, modern journalism provides more time and routes for uncovering corruption and manipulation, and less time spent doing the more labour-intensive work. It can also provide pointers for where this corruption is occurring in a far more effective way than the desk life many reporters have, being fed by PR people. Belated congratulations and good luck!

@Albert If used correctly, modern journalism provides more time and routes for uncovering corruption and manipulation, and less time spent doing the more labour-intensive work.
It can also provide pointers for where this corruption is occurring in a far more effective way than the desk life many reporters have, being fed by PR people.

]]> By: Albert Maruggi http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/2008/06/19/my-newest-journalism-adventure/#comment-3973 Albert Maruggi Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:29:44 +0000 http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/?p=307#comment-3973 OK this is all well and good, several other projects exist, I blogged about one of them here http://tinyurl.com/68x9v6 I love the idea of beat blogging, but is that journalism or observing event(s) and providing a conduit for comment. Not that this isn't valuable I just ask the question of whether this is what journalism will become? If so, how do we uncover corruption, crime, and manipulation? One can say, hey, journalism is just to report the facts and you, the consumer of information figure out the rest. OK I'm cool with that. However, remind me of the following: Who checks facts in new journalism? Who pays for new journalism? all the best, nice work I'll keep a twitter eye out OK this is all well and good, several other projects exist, I blogged about one of them here http://tinyurl.com/68×9v6

I love the idea of beat blogging, but is that journalism or observing event(s) and providing a conduit for comment. Not that this isn’t valuable I just ask the question of whether this is what journalism will become? If so, how do we uncover corruption, crime, and manipulation?

One can say, hey, journalism is just to report the facts and you, the consumer of information figure out the rest. OK I’m cool with that.

However, remind me of the following:

Who checks facts in new journalism?

Who pays for new journalism?

all the best, nice work I’ll keep a twitter eye out

]]> By: Bit by bit, the pieces start to fall into place. Let’s give a FaceBook-esque ‘StamfordPeople’ a whirl; how to find yourself a baby-sitter in 2008… » Out With A Bang http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/2008/06/19/my-newest-journalism-adventure/#comment-3971 Bit by bit, the pieces start to fall into place. Let’s give a FaceBook-esque ‘StamfordPeople’ a whirl; how to find yourself a baby-sitter in 2008… » Out With A Bang Tue, 24 Jun 2008 10:09:26 +0000 http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/?p=307#comment-3971 [...] I stumbled across a guy called Patrick Thornton last night who - from a distance - appears to be one of Jay Rosen’s ‘posse’ out in the States. In that he’s just taken over from Knight News Challenge winner David Cohn in working on www.beatblogging.org - http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/2008/06/19/my-newest-journalism-adventure/  [...] [...] I stumbled across a guy called Patrick Thornton last night who - from a distance - appears to be one of Jay Rosen’s ‘posse’ out in the States. In that he’s just taken over from Knight News Challenge winner David Cohn in working on http://www.beatblogging.org - http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/2008/06/19/my-newest-journalism-adventure/  [...]

]]> By: bored_at_work http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/2008/06/19/my-newest-journalism-adventure/#comment-3929 bored_at_work Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:06:21 +0000 http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/?p=307#comment-3929 "The reason Pat is perfect for this job are many and varied. It will be a blast to see it evolve." I couldn't agree more. Congrats! “The reason Pat is perfect for this job are many and varied. It will be a blast to see it evolve.”

I couldn’t agree more. Congrats!

]]> By: Knight Foundation Blog » Printcasting, WiredJournalists, BeatBlogging, Spot.Us, OffTheBus, Copy Editors, Newspaper Jobs http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/2008/06/19/my-newest-journalism-adventure/#comment-3928 Knight Foundation Blog » Printcasting, WiredJournalists, BeatBlogging, Spot.Us, OffTheBus, Copy Editors, Newspaper Jobs Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:49:17 +0000 http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/?p=307#comment-3928 [...] Pat Thorton is taking BeatBlogging editorial reins from David Cohn, who has started working on his News Challenge project, Spot.us; find out how Cohn addresses his early Spot.us critics in this IdeaLab blog post. [...] [...] Pat Thorton is taking BeatBlogging editorial reins from David Cohn, who has started working on his News Challenge project, Spot.us; find out how Cohn addresses his early Spot.us critics in this IdeaLab blog post. [...]

]]> By: Angela http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/2008/06/19/my-newest-journalism-adventure/#comment-3926 Angela Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:28:56 +0000 http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/?p=307#comment-3926 So many beat reporters are held back and not allowed to be innovative due to the lack of skills and lack of understanding of their superiors. If upper management does not embrace, or see value in allowing the reporters to broaden their horizons and report in a new way that embraces social media and other forms of interactivity, the organization will continue to crumble. The newspaper mentality boggled my mind when I was multimedia editor at a major paper in South Florida. They have to let go of the antiquated ideas of ruling by committee, strategic sessions and 14-month plans to move into Web 2.0. When they finally get there, the rest of the world will be Web 4.0. It's a vicious cycle. I hope this project will encourage executives to give reporters some breathing room and ultimately trust them. I can't wait to monitor the progress. So many beat reporters are held back and not allowed to be innovative due to the lack of skills and lack of understanding of their superiors. If upper management does not embrace, or see value in allowing the reporters to broaden their horizons and report in a new way that embraces social media and other forms of interactivity, the organization will continue to crumble. The newspaper mentality boggled my mind when I was multimedia editor at a major paper in South Florida. They have to let go of the antiquated ideas of ruling by committee, strategic sessions and 14-month plans to move into Web 2.0. When they finally get there, the rest of the world will be Web 4.0. It’s a vicious cycle. I hope this project will encourage executives to give reporters some breathing room and ultimately trust them. I can’t wait to monitor the progress.

]]> By: WiredJournalists.com welcomes BeatBlogging.org » Invisible Inkling http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/2008/06/19/my-newest-journalism-adventure/#comment-3921 WiredJournalists.com welcomes BeatBlogging.org » Invisible Inkling Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:17:44 +0000 http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/?p=307#comment-3921 [...] blog, along with a call to action to let Pat Thornton know if you’re an unsung beatblogger.  Pat’s the new editor at BeatBlogging, taking over for David Cohn, who moves on to doing something else impressive with his Knight News [...] [...] blog, along with a call to action to let Pat Thornton know if you’re an unsung beatblogger.  Pat’s the new editor at BeatBlogging, taking over for David Cohn, who moves on to doing something else impressive with his Knight News [...]

]]> By: Digidave http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/2008/06/19/my-newest-journalism-adventure/#comment-3919 Digidave Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:19:40 +0000 http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/?p=307#comment-3919 I'm freak'n excited to see where Pat takes beat blogging. It's been a great project to work on and I don't intend to disappear. But it's an exciting time in general for journalism and there are lots of experiments to try and I've been offered the chance to lead an experiment of my own. Still: The reason Pat is perfect for this job are many and varied. It will be a blast to see it evolve. I’m freak’n excited to see where Pat takes beat blogging. It’s been a great project to work on and I don’t intend to disappear. But it’s an exciting time in general for journalism and there are lots of experiments to try and I’ve been offered the chance to lead an experiment of my own.

Still: The reason Pat is perfect for this job are many and varied. It will be a blast to see it evolve.

]]> By: InkStainedRetch http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/2008/06/19/my-newest-journalism-adventure/#comment-3918 InkStainedRetch Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:02:11 +0000 http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/?p=307#comment-3918 Pat: As you start on your new job, I thought you might like to see this example that's trying to combine crowdsourcing and new media techniques with angry, old school journalists. www.tellzell.com is written by an anonymous LA staffer. It got some buzz by posting all names of recently axed LAT employees. Now, the site is doing an investigative reporting project, done by volunteer ex LAT staffers, posting on the blog. It's kind of an interesting experiment between new and old media, old fashioned reporting married to blogging technology. cheers, the Retch. Pat:

As you start on your new job, I thought you might like to see this example that’s trying to combine crowdsourcing and new media techniques with angry, old school journalists.

http://www.tellzell.com is written by an anonymous LA staffer. It got some buzz by posting all names of recently axed LAT employees. Now, the site is doing an investigative reporting project, done by volunteer ex LAT staffers, posting on the blog. It’s kind of an interesting experiment between new and old media, old fashioned reporting married to blogging technology.

cheers,

the Retch.

]]> By: Patrick Beeson http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/2008/06/19/my-newest-journalism-adventure/#comment-3910 Patrick Beeson Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:45:09 +0000 http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/?p=307#comment-3910 Congrats on the new position! It sounds very innovative and forward-thinking. Congrats on the new position! It sounds very innovative and forward-thinking.

]]> By: Will Sullivan http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/2008/06/19/my-newest-journalism-adventure/#comment-3904 Will Sullivan Thu, 19 Jun 2008 05:45:44 +0000 http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/?p=307#comment-3904 Big ups, P-Ditty! From your previous pant-less post, I thought you were going to become an underwear model, but I guess working for Beat Blogging is just as glamorous. Keep up the good fight. Will Big ups, P-Ditty!

From your previous pant-less post, I thought you were going to become an underwear model, but I guess working for Beat Blogging is just as glamorous.

Keep up the good fight.
Will

]]> By: twenty something http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/2008/06/19/my-newest-journalism-adventure/#comment-3902 twenty something Thu, 19 Jun 2008 04:34:28 +0000 http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/?p=307#comment-3902 wow congratulations! that really is great news :) wow congratulations! that really is great news :)

]]> By: Kiyoshi Martinez http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/2008/06/19/my-newest-journalism-adventure/#comment-3901 Kiyoshi Martinez Thu, 19 Jun 2008 04:32:32 +0000 http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/?p=307#comment-3901 Congrats and best of luck on your new venture. Congrats and best of luck on your new venture.

]]> By: Daniel Victor http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/2008/06/19/my-newest-journalism-adventure/#comment-3900 Daniel Victor Thu, 19 Jun 2008 04:27:43 +0000 http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/?p=307#comment-3900 Your enthusiasm for the project is noticed and appreciated. I'm looking forward to seeing where we can go with this. Your enthusiasm for the project is noticed and appreciated. I’m looking forward to seeing where we can go with this.

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