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	<title>Comments on: A journalism education worth paying for</title>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/2008/03/04/a-journalism-education-worth-paying-for/comment-page-1/#comment-2489</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 03:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds to me like this list is a recommendation to study something other than journalism.

I think that&#039;s the right idea.

J-school for me was a one-semester affair, repeated for years on end.  I&#039;m fairly certain I could teach AP style and basic reporting to anyone in one semester.

It was a minor for me, but as a minor I took all but three of the classes required of majors and offered through the department.  See, the university I went to relied on English grammar and lit classes to stretch things out to four years.  Otherwise it would be a 12-18 month program.

What&#039;s missing in a lot of today&#039;s journalists (and photojournalists) is a depth of knowledge in some field other than journalism.

I&#039;d like to see people with backgrounds in science writing science beats, and people with backgrounds in business writing business beats.

A minor in journalism should give would-be journalists enough of the basics to fit into a newsroom, and their other course(s) of study should allow them to run circles around staffers at papers who can just (barely) manage their beats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds to me like this list is a recommendation to study something other than journalism.</p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s the right idea.</p>
<p>J-school for me was a one-semester affair, repeated for years on end.  I&#8217;m fairly certain I could teach AP style and basic reporting to anyone in one semester.</p>
<p>It was a minor for me, but as a minor I took all but three of the classes required of majors and offered through the department.  See, the university I went to relied on English grammar and lit classes to stretch things out to four years.  Otherwise it would be a 12-18 month program.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s missing in a lot of today&#8217;s journalists (and photojournalists) is a depth of knowledge in some field other than journalism.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see people with backgrounds in science writing science beats, and people with backgrounds in business writing business beats.</p>
<p>A minor in journalism should give would-be journalists enough of the basics to fit into a newsroom, and their other course(s) of study should allow them to run circles around staffers at papers who can just (barely) manage their beats.</p>
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		<title>By: pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ginny,

I hear ya. I have more than $40,000 in student loans to pay back and I learned none of the journalism skills I listed above. Sure, I learned how to write, edit, about ethics and law, but I never learned any of the in-demand skills that are needed today.

But I did learn page layout, which will take me places in this industry. In fact, I was required to take a class on publication design, but the class on Web design was optional (it sucked so I skipped it). 

Luckily, I have been doing Web stuff way longer than journalism, and I have attended a couple of seminars in the past year. But there is so much more to learn. I&#039;m always trying to learn something new. Right now I am working on PHP and MySQL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ginny,</p>
<p>I hear ya. I have more than $40,000 in student loans to pay back and I learned none of the journalism skills I listed above. Sure, I learned how to write, edit, about ethics and law, but I never learned any of the in-demand skills that are needed today.</p>
<p>But I did learn page layout, which will take me places in this industry. In fact, I was required to take a class on publication design, but the class on Web design was optional (it sucked so I skipped it). </p>
<p>Luckily, I have been doing Web stuff way longer than journalism, and I have attended a couple of seminars in the past year. But there is so much more to learn. I&#8217;m always trying to learn something new. Right now I am working on PHP and MySQL.</p>
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		<title>By: Ginny</title>
		<link>http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/2008/03/04/a-journalism-education-worth-paying-for/comment-page-1/#comment-2482</link>
		<dc:creator>Ginny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An excellent list, and it&#039;s sad to say I learned pretty much nothing on it while in journalism school. Now, five years removed from graduation, I&#039;ve had to teach myself or learn from others. Makes paying back my student loans slightly more painful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An excellent list, and it&#8217;s sad to say I learned pretty much nothing on it while in journalism school. Now, five years removed from graduation, I&#8217;ve had to teach myself or learn from others. Makes paying back my student loans slightly more painful.</p>
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